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By: Anonymous https://startupsanonymous.com/question/toxic-dying-startup-want-split-off-start-scratch-unethical/#comments/11779 Sun, 06 Nov 2016 19:14:02 +0000 https://startupsanonymous.com/?p=3255#comment-11779 Definitely do it.

Find a way to reframe your experience with this start-up to support your vision to create your own company. E.g. “After working in the space for X years, we saw a customer need and opportunity to focus on whatever, so began this venture to do just that”

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By: Anonymous https://startupsanonymous.com/question/toxic-dying-startup-want-split-off-start-scratch-unethical/#comments/11742 Wed, 26 Oct 2016 12:40:09 +0000 https://startupsanonymous.com/?p=3255#comment-11742 Assume you get past the legal hurdles, there’s a lot of emphasis placed on products vs sales. Most anyone can build a product: sales and distribution is what makes or breaks a company. Does the current company own the market, or have a lot of customer respect? That can prevent you from reasonably succeeding.

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By: Anonymous https://startupsanonymous.com/question/toxic-dying-startup-want-split-off-start-scratch-unethical/#comments/11711 Mon, 24 Oct 2016 07:15:29 +0000 https://startupsanonymous.com/?p=3255#comment-11711 Depending on the country non competes may be unenforceable either through legal statutes or simply red tape. Best consult a lawyer.

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By: Anonymous https://startupsanonymous.com/question/toxic-dying-startup-want-split-off-start-scratch-unethical/#comments/11706 Fri, 21 Oct 2016 11:24:27 +0000 https://startupsanonymous.com/?p=3255#comment-11706 Go for it. If you can raise seed money and get traction in 3 months, then do it.

I would worry more about what the existing investors in your company will do, not the current CEO (who won’t have much say-so and would look like a failure). If they are big-players, they may be able throw roadblocks in your way (threaten big lawyers, call up your seed investor and scare them, bad PR, etc).

If non-competes become a serious issue (which I doubt they will, even in US you need lots of money and high-priced attorney to enforce), then you can always sell/merge or even buy-out your current CEO & Shareholders.

Or, maybe pitch it as an Ultimatum to your CEO (ie: Mutiny). We’re all going to leave unless you do this… Or you could call up your largest shareholder and express your concern. There is no right answer — too many variables to know which will turn out best in the long run, but clearly you need to do something.

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By: dana https://startupsanonymous.com/question/toxic-dying-startup-want-split-off-start-scratch-unethical/#comments/11704 Fri, 21 Oct 2016 04:54:49 +0000 https://startupsanonymous.com/?p=3255#comment-11704 In reply to Anonymous.

Let’s not pretend that running a business is rocket science. There isn’t a background in this world that unqualifies someone from becoming an entrepreneur.

OP, if you understand the space and the buyer needs, you’re more than prepared.

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By: Anonymous https://startupsanonymous.com/question/toxic-dying-startup-want-split-off-start-scratch-unethical/#comments/11702 Thu, 20 Oct 2016 23:38:46 +0000 https://startupsanonymous.com/?p=3255#comment-11702 I wouldn’t do it. Too many red flags with all the non competes.

Also, you have no idea what it is like to run a business until you have done it. Simply being a good manager is not enough.

I’d suggest you leave and find a new place to work, or an idea unrelated to your existing startup

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By: dana https://startupsanonymous.com/question/toxic-dying-startup-want-split-off-start-scratch-unethical/#comments/11701 Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:18:10 +0000 https://startupsanonymous.com/?p=3255#comment-11701 In reply to Anonymous.

That’s a great point … especially if it’s a number of employees at once. Company would likely threaten, but anything more than that would cost more money than it’s worth, or than they have.

Go for it OP

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